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Thursday, May 24, 2012

APB ban hammer time - "Inside Mole Edition"

The endless war between cheaters and gamers continue. In the last few days (along with the release 1.8) we were able to mass-ban everyone who have ever used one particularly annoying cheat. Our inside mole that has infiltrated the inner workings of this particular operation reports the following from their private message boards... Utter pain and confusion...

Remember - there is no such things as 'just a little bit of cheating'. You will get caught. And you will lose everything on every account you have ever played. Sure you can re-roll. And get caught again...

Or - how about - just don't cheat...

Your TechMech


And to be clear - the ban affects not just APB but all games where PB is used....  (as illustrated in this post):


125 comments:

  1. So, you banned the majority of your player base?

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    1. spoke just like a true cheater...

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    2. I sure hope so. Every time I go back to APB, the players are dicks.

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  2. What pisses me off the most is how deserving they think they are to cheat in the first place. As if they were victims to begin with.

    Annoys the hell out of me and I think that really depicts how immature they are to begin with to think in such a pathetic way.

    Good going G1, at the very least.

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  3. Is there any news as to Hardware ID ban implementation then Tech? Allowing them to reroll is inviting them to try another hack for as long as it works, over and over again. Right after a ban we'll again see low-rating golds with a sixth sense and amazing performance.

    It's really unfair to the legit players to have this much paranoïa in the game, when you can't ever trust anyone that's performing well.

    Nevertheless, good to see you guys are still slaving away at the game. I was cynical at first, thinking G1 polished up a broken game and milking it for as long as they could as-is, but recent developments are showing that it's being properly developed.

    I humbly await the performance fixes so I can play properly again, I miss my friends out there.

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  4. Sounds about right. Guess we'll be seeing a mass decrease in population.

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  5. Ahhhhhahhhh suck it cheaters.

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  6. Finally a way to remove those people...GJ!

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  7. I used to cheat in the past because it was fun, but now it seems unfair to me. I have played a little bit of this game and have noticed suspicious players.

    Usually I mess around on single-player games and cheat after I beat it, but once you do it online then it's like receiving a final grade for a test let alone a final exam.

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  8. I love how the cheater's go emo about x)

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  9. AHAHAHA I WANNA SEE MORE POST OF THESE HACKERS BITCHIN ABOUT BEING BANNED GG SILLY BISHES XDDDDD!

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  10. loll idiot ppl buy premium hack dont get ban these guy make money with hack and they are very very good coders what u catch is stupid ppl using free public hack

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    1. The people on this forum are from Artificial Aiming. A highly sophisticated and rather expensive hack. Now, I'm not a cheater anymore, but I used to be when I played cod4. So I know a thing or two about these guys.

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    2. Do note. theirs a reason it's called 'Mole Edition'. It's not like it was officialy detected at first, G1 had to get program/code to locate it, plus keep eye on their forums.

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  11. i know ppl have already make a hack for diablo 3 100% undetectable so apb is a piece of cake for these guys!!!

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    1. Pffft well i can tell right of the bat ur a victim of hacking

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    2. Nothing is 100% undetectable. it's just a matter of time before you get caught. Lets give the none cheater 1euro for every hacker that says 100% undetectable and we would all live rich

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    3. To be honest since APB is still new I'm sure it has many loop holes and workarounds , there are people who work day in and day out on these kinds of things, searching for any kinds of exploits.

      To be honest you can't stop cheaters, only make it harder for them, or make the consequences more permanent. Now it's like "Well hey I'll try this out on a scrub account and if it gets banned I know it's not legit".

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    5. Correction: You CAN'T make an undetectable hack. They WILL get detected. Only undetectable hacks are just new, and in a few weeks they will ALSO get detected. And maybe it is not undetectable from punkbuster/other services, but then other players can detect and report the hack.

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  12. it annoys me and pisses me off to see these pieces of shit talk like this thinking they have done nothing wrong when really there relying on a program to get them great at the game when in true if they stopped hacking they would get farmed like hell from silvers gold hell probably even bronze players could kick there ass

    hackers = low life people/kids that hack to gain a unfair advantage over players

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    1. Yep I got in a discussion with a hacker, and they saw nothing wrong with what they were doing ... as if it was normal

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  13. ppl work for game team like apb think they are the best coders but ppl create hack have go to school too so dont say u can ban every hacker cauz its impossible ;)

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    1. u really are a dum qho asid anything about them banning them all and by the sounds of it ur on the hackers side either way there pieces of shit that dont deserve to play the game so its best if u GTFO as well

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    2. Well there really are no "Sides"
      He makes a good point saying you can't ban every hacker, because let's face it, there's always that person who's ahead of the quo, Dibbz if you looked at the situation with a little bit of maturity and put your biased opinions aside, ask yourself this

      Do you REALLY think they can stop ALL the hackers? No, it's just logically impossible.

      Now from APB's side, if they make it harder for them, increase the punishments, make the consequences more drastic for getting caught, maybe they would think twice about it.

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  14. no dude some time hacker just want to try thei skill in code and try manipule sucky game like apb !!!

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    1. apb is not sucky and also learn to spell jack ass the only problem here is PB its utter terrible with this game but i dont give 2 shits if its crap or not either way i still support G1 for what there doing if this game was still running in RTW it would be a mess

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    2. Dibbz take your own advice and learn how to spell, act a little more mature... Most of your posts are flaming, inconsiderate and rude towards other people with a different opinion than your own.

      "They're" and you forgot to capitalize your "I"s, with your lack of commas and periods it just looks like you made one long run on sentence.

      Of course I make grammatical errors all the time, but still, don't call the kettle black.

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    3. If APB is such a sucky game you won't mind the fact that you've been banned.

      Have fun! We certainly will!

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  15. Hardware banning is Illegal last i have known it. Punkbuster is just as good as a "hardware" style ban. Because it bans the Unique ID of the player. Basically what looks like happened. G1 seems to have the"mole" in there and is sending every hack to Punkbuster. This isnt g1 banning them it is them, its PB detecting the hacks "Signature" or hash and kicking and banning them. IF the hack is a single EXE for every game. then they will get detected and banned. :)

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    1. Where the hell did you hear it's illegal to ban someone via their HWID? It's not. at all.

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    2. well said my friend well said

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    3. A GUID is usually derived from a CD key for a game or in G1's case, the account. A new account would circumvent the GUID ban again. PB hurts more when you have to -pay- for a new cd key, it's useless for free accounts.

      Punkbuster's hardware bans are called HWID bans.

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    4. It's not Illegal. A lot of the EULAs for these games point out that the players don't own anything, but lease their character and items from the publisher, developer, or whoever (that's why WoW cracks down on people selling accounts, because the players don't own them).

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  16. the guy have create the thing u call facebook was a hacker too and the guy launch the first mac computer was a hacker too and many ppl work at google are hacker too ;)

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    1. You have obviously never learned the difference between white, grey and black hat hackers. You should at least try to learn something about the subject before trying to make statements about it.

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    2. Jmax u use the Hacker in the illegal term. look up what a Hacker really are

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    3. Jesus, why am I replying to dumb arse kids...

      Nearly anything in the tech world is built by hackers. 'Hacking' doesn't mean breaking into secured systems, hacking means using things in a different way than usual. As mentioned, look it up.

      Furthermore, they didn't hack for malicious intent. Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook) didn't hack games to ruin it for everyone.

      Please don't post again until you're 16 years old, and don't skip school brah.

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  17. Oh god... This just made my day, seeing the bastards whine. I LOVE IT!

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  18. dude and signature is in hexa and thats easy to manipule

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  19. whow look out people we have a hacker amongst us

    *caugh* Jmax *caugh*

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    1. lol, Look out, we have a bad ass over here.

      I fully agree, i've hacked before (never on apb, on wow) and it's fun to get a few insta kills, but it gets boring..... really really quick.

      I find I get my jollies off way faster by beating people at their own game.

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    2. Unlikely, hackers are intelligent.

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  20. im not saying im a hacker i say i dont like when ppl think they are god ppl work for apb may do a good job but its impossible keep a server out of hacker

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    1. What you fail to understand is that downloading software that enables you to get an unfair advantage over other players doesn't make you a hacker. It makes you cheater!

      The original definition of hacking is to find ways to improve the function or make a particular thing or software perform better than the original design.
      Only since the origin of black-hat hackers on the internet has the term "hacker" gained a negative aspect. Even games can be hacked in ways to improve the experience in ways other than cheating. ENB for example improves graphics of lots of games by adding features such as depth of field and dynamic shadows the original designers either left out or completely fucked up. Like I said before, learn something about the subject before trying to make statements about it.

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  21. Perhaps now those of us with some real skill, or who often just get lucky, wont have people going "Recorded you, you're gonna get banned".

    Kills the mood of the session to have someone yelling at you because they feel their death was unjust.

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    1. man what the hell happend to gamers

      back when i was a counter strike player (long ago) people would accuse me of hacking and i would take it as the best complement ever

      why because i knew i didnt hack and the fact they thought i was meant i was doing so damn good they thought i had an unfair advantage

      grow up and take a damn complement

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    2. I aggree e-cig, a gold recorded me and started /w-ing me saying "nice hacks!" and "I'm reporting you". Now I'm pretty bad at this game, I'm a silver and my aim is abysmal at best, but hey if this gold thought my aim was almost automated it was that good, then AWESOMO!

      I actually asked him if he would upload it to youtube for me as a kinda trophie, but alas that made him rage quit.

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  22. in the wolrd you will always find someone more stronger that you are ;)

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    1. For example; there are many, many people who are better at typing and spelling than you.

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    2. first u dont know what u talking about cauz im french ;)

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  23. try speak in frech dumbass ;) just for fun ;)

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    1. Why should we try to speak in frog?

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    2. I'll speak in french for you T-Virus.

      "I SURRENDER"

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  24. loll thats what i think ;)

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  25. About time!
    I stopped playing APB in the first place because of cheaters..
    Now I might just come back :)
    GZ!

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  26. Uh That thread was related to BF3 and had nothing to do with APB.

    I should know since I'm Cybersaurus.

    So congratulations on being a 'mole' (registering a free account [derp]) and not even navigating to the correct forum.

    What are the chances I spot this out of my facebook newsfeed and see a screenshot of my own post, lol.

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  27. Hackers : 0 Legit players : 1
    LOL

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  28. Ah - I should be clear - the hack is now banning you both from APB and BF3 (and another dozen or so games) - I will update with that info too just for fun...

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    1. For a small team guys.... Excellent work. <3

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  29. TechMech, would you please post the entire list for all to see?
    I'm very curious (as are others I bet).
    Congratz on 1.8 and this banwave

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    1. 2nd that. Would help Clans too in weeding out peeps.

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  30. This is the funniest shit ever.

    1. You say you banned everyone that uses a cheat? Well my 3 accounts are perfectly fine. And i have been cheating, and using that exact same hack... Yes, i have been banned, and your new thing, blocking, bypassed that in less then 5 minutes.

    2. You are going on about a PB ban affecting other games, i wonder what EA would say about you making that insinuation, even though it isn't true in the least. If it were my bf3 account from origin would have been gone a long time ago. See a guid ban from PB doesn't affect other games. I have a bc2 account banned, but im able to use the same email to login and play bf3 with no problems at all. Get your facts straight before you speak. GUID bans are based off the email and key used to create the account. Since a key to a newer game is different, you actually have multiple GUIDs.

    3. See you actually contradicted your companies previous statements. In the not so far past, they claimed they do not allow PB to do the banning, but rather get handed over a list of accounts it detected, and you do the bans in-house. So, that would mean you believe you have control over other companies games? Would it be smarter for you to at least show your playerbase you have control over your own game first before claiming that?

    I think the only people reading this, and believing it, are the people that are so stuck in the world RTW created, and only have friends there, and no where else, and use it for their actual socializing.

    Please i beg you, stop with the bullshit you are spewing, and at least tell your customers the truth. You got a few screenshots from the forums, of people that are new to cheating, and do not know how it works yet.. Good job, you basically censored the rest of the thread where people told them their accounts in others games are not going to be harmed.

    -nocturnal
    (Proud Member of AA)

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    1. Well Hi Chris/nocturnal - glad you are a proud cheater and member of AA (and take pride in being a cheater, good for you). Glad to hear you have been banned several times before. I hope you continue losing accounts.

      Let's be clear - PB historically have been unable to detect certain AA cheats. Now it can. Anything to improve the speed and banning rate of players like yourself is of course terribly welcome.

      Finally, you may have missed the point. You are now bannable and detectable across a lot of titles. Since PB uses a shared system, you will get cross-banned. Which is why the BF3 and APB threads are both relevant to the conversation.

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    2. Chris, I got up to "my 3 accounts are perfectly fine" then stopped reading.

      Just the fact that you seem to think you are some higher force because you cheat is beyond ridiculous, you know why people play games right? for fun.
      Obviously the original balanced game mechanics in most games to you isn't in your favour enough hence why you cheat.

      Also there's no fine line between a cheater and hacker. You are either the bitch or the person with a brain, I'll let you attempt to guess who is the bitch.

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    3. LOL Chris ... nice ego you got their ... I wonder what you would say if I said "Do you have an honor code?"

      That's the problem with hackers, and with many who do not hack as well. Very few players play with an honor code.

      Now of course I really hate hackers because of their lack of an honor code, and they naive personality that they are not doing something wrong.

      Chris I hope your laziness to excel and work for something comes back to haunt you in the real world seeing as you don't see to realize the consequences of hacking.

      BTW love the two who replied responses.

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    4. What do you do when you've been handed gold?

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  31. Props G1. This is quite possibly the awesomest antihack method ever. Though, I gotta say, a warning that a global, multi-game ban was even possible would have averted all the whiners in this post.

    I am not one of those whiners. You, sirs, are the finest Enforcers this internet will ever have.

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  32. That sounds great - but you have to do these banwaves nearly everyday cause the hacking retards never die or give up......

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  33. Easy way to spot cheaters, download/install the program(s) yourself, then view (or even record) your oppositions actions.

    Not sure on the implications but it seems G1 staff need to get ruthless when it comes to penalizing users for breaking the EULA, (legal action.)

    These cheating programs are losing your company plenty of money and what I find worse ruining your companies reputation!

    It's time to take a FIRM stance, report on results that will have a lasting effect not on whims or ambitions 'one particularly annoying cheat' should read 'all annoying cheats been banned!'

    People are now taking pride in seeing your game fail, (refer to 'Chris's' comment May 24, 2012 9:24 AM) start taking legal action on ALL offences!
    Make an example of a few, the rest will fall into line.

    See how proud they are when they're in court.

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    1. While I would agree, making an example of a few ... this probably won't happen. When it involves court, that costs money. Also when you involve the internet, law becomes very complicated, including tracking the people down and proving it was them.

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  34. Dude... this is some great news. I Stopped playing this game due to the amount of people hacking. Honestly, APB:R has the highest amount of cheaters I've ever seen in a game by far.

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  35. You need to stop banning based on IP, its retarded

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    1. In my home we share our internet connection with some neighbours, that means that a lot of people is sharing the same public IP. Are our accounts safe if any one of our neighbors enters APB and uses a cheat.
      I know that some of them play computer games like we do so it's a real danger for us.

      I think it's a good question for all the people that share internet connections. Because this can mean we need to pay another internet private connection, to be able to play APB safely.

      By the way, good job! ^_^

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  36. Lol at it banning all PB games. APB is free to play so in the past they've figured there's nothing to lose. Now maybe they'll think twice. Idiots.

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  37. This. Is. Awesome. Good one G1 and RP. You have really made my day!

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  38. oh my god... this is awesome. that will show them dicks. this is worthy of a jam session. i'll go do that after

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  39. Everyone knows g1 has already implemented HWID bans A.K.A--APB lame HWID bans as they are so easy to bypass and very pathetic.
    I mean really you ban HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Cryptography?
    do a more effective HWID ban.

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  40. So are we going to see this list of bans? I mean you can say all you want, but until I see a list, it's all talk to me.

    Also not to sound negative, but do you mind explaining how you'll handle all those people who will probably go running off to the BBB? I mean, I know you said ban them, but the proof is in the pudding. You have unbanned people who went to the BBB before (even though the characters are leased and not owned by the player base).

    However, I am hoping to stay optimistic about this, and that it will take out the cheaters. If you do, please make it very public and make everyone aware you did so ... I think if you truly do remove them, you'll gain back that player base you banned if not more (the population).

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  41. hahaha hackers crying...oh how I love this

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  42. TechMech, again you are wrong. A ban in APB would not cause a ban in BF3. GUIDs are based off the key and email used to make the account. So a GUID in APB, is not the same as your GUID in BF3. So stop trying to lie to these people. You always do some sort of "We got them now!" post whenever G1 releases some new type of ingame function they want people to buy. This time it is skins for weapons. Regardless of me being a cheater from ArtificialAiming (proudly so), look back at your big banwaves you have had in the past...

    Check the dates, and correlate them to new items in Armas being sold. Really strange how the bans, your new methods, bans, and findings are always right before the release of items.

    Still you haven't responded to the fact you were posting pics of the BF3 thread, and only one from our APB thread... The bans you claim to be from one, have nothing to do with the other.

    I just wish these fanboys opened their eyes to the fact you straight out lie to them. personally i don;t give a rats ass about bans in your game. It's free to play. I do not spend money with your company, and never will, so i lose nothing. Your company will NEVER do a huge banwave again, and you know it, so stop acting like you will, or are planning too.

    The facts are this, you do a minute amount of bans, and pst them hoping to appease the fanboys, and fangirls, yes this is true. But the last time you did that huge banwave, remember what happened? I do. You lost 75% of your playerbase, and lost tons of cash. Now i know you will never admit to this, but that is really why Nueme got fired. He made the call to let loose the dogs, and never realized that most of the people he was going to ban were Armas buying customers. Yes they cheated, but they also helped pay G1's bills. I remember the weeks, even months after it, hell even now, the districts are dead. Yeah yeah, you have a few full ones, but not like before that banwave. Truth is, G1 never fully recovered from it.

    If anyone here says otherwise, go check out the auction houses. Do you remember how easy it was before that big banwave to find whatever symbol, theme you wanted? Is it like that now? No, that's because Nueme made a bad decision, and G1 is still paying for it. If G1 could get rid of all cheaters, why am i still able to play? Their so called HWID ban they do now, does nothing. 5 minutes, and any person with access to google.com can get around it. Not to mention when you did your first "blocks" on a few cheaters, all the others had to do was make a restore point, and never update it... So when they got blocked, they just restore back to that point, and never log in any of those old acccounts, and just make a fresh one...

    LOL @ G1, beaten by a windows function.

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    1. TL:DR version:

      I'm a cheater with a big ego, and I'm proud. People that don't cheat like me are idiots.

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    2. Right Chris... The good news was this; PB can now detect AA across all games, including BF3 and APB, for what I think is the first time.

      I am sure AA will dive back into trying to re-hide the cheat, but now that will be much harder. Second - every time you post I get happier, since you basically are admitting that you have to continue to re-roll and you and your buddies continue to lose accounts, and "when people get blocked they just restore back to that point and never log in any of those accounts." Right. I guess that's our point. We will continue making it harder and harder.

      Finally - content in Armas and new cheat methods often ARE released at the same time for a completely different reason; the content is normally in a patch (like 1.8) and the new anti-cheat measures are ALSO in a patch (like 1.8) braniac... Is there a sinister reason behind this other than plain old software engineering release systems? Of course not.

      Really funny that you are "proud to cheat". Seems like a very small thing to be proud of in life.

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  43. chris man you need to get some herb and chill the fuck out. oh and can you stop cheating on Multiplayer games. it smells like shit.

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  44. chris whats your point anyway? how do you legitimate cheating in a competitive multiplayer game? whats the point for a cheater to play against another cheater, just to outcheat the other cheat?

    and if you like the game, you just crap on the 25% of players that doesn't cheat? if you cant lose, you shoudent play any games at all, no sports, just lern to lose for a while.

    some ppl are really pathetic.

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  45. Good job G1. You guys are so good at banning hackers that you incorrectly banned legit players too and then refused to do anything about it. I refuse to spend any more money on anything that has the GamersFirst name on it.

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    1. Matt we never intend to ban people who DON'T cheat (of course). But you'd be surprised how many times we hear this - and then it turns out that their friend or 'sister' logged in to their account and did cheat. Or you cheated on a previous system. Or just 'tried it for a few minutes'. Or cheated in a different game...

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    2. I post it again, with the hope that it will be answered.

      In my home we share our internet connection with some neighbours, that means that a lot of people is sharing the same public IP. Are our accounts safe if any one of our neighbors enters APB and uses a cheat.
      I know that some of them play computer games like we do so it's a real danger for us.

      I think it's a good question for all the people that share internet connections. Because this can mean we need to pay another internet private connection, to be able to play APB safely.

      By the way, good job! ^_^

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    4. I cheat in Fallout sometimes to expand my inventory space, does that count? :P

      Anyway my APB account was compromised after a malware infection and G1 closed it. Support refused to do anything even after I had invested 300 hours and $164.56 in this game. All they did was send a canned response which said the account has been closed because someone with access to it violated the Terms of Service.

      I couldn't even get an explanation or any assistance for a technical error. Pretty terrible policy if you ask me.

      Turned out my system was compromised due to a security flaw in Java which allowed malware designed to steal sensitive information, such as passwords, to enter my system.

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  46. I feel like... YES THANKS BJORN... let them know they wont cheat on PB games anymore ;-)

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  47. I saw last night already 1 cheater... somewhere around 11 PM (GMT+ 2)

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  48. Can we get a banlist? That's the best part.

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  50. Hi Techmech, great to know that there's so much moving forward on many fronts. It sounds like this PB update will smack cheaters in not just their APB account but also in their BF3 and other PB game accounts. I really hope that's the case, and I also hope that this might be the start of a more united front against cheating.

    There are still cheaters roaming around, since AA isn't the only cheat out there, and there's also a new influx of rerolls. I understand that figuring out cheats takes time, but please please please don't let them go up to 8 months undetected again. The last 2 months have been especially rough on the legitimate player base, a lot of people just gave up. I hope they come back, but even if they do they won't stay for long if the rollercoaster starts up again.

    It's been great to have so much new content so quickly, and great to hear AA finally got a kick in the balls. Looking forward to more game optimization, server performance increases, and of course the banlist ;)

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  51. "And to be clear - the ban affects not just APB but all games where PB is used.... (as illustrated in this post)"

    So you don't need HWID ban anymore?
    Since PB bans them on IP or?
    How can PB ban them on every game? If they can then APB doesn't need HWID ban because if they make a new account PB doesn't allowed them in APB.

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  52. Great news! APB is doing things right ever since Warrock Closed.. Keep it up guys!

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  53. Hey TechMech,

    Again you lie. Man does it ever stop?

    "Finally - content in Armas and new cheat methods often ARE released at the same time for a completely different reason; the content is normally in a patch (like 1.8) and the new anti-cheat measures are ALSO in a patch (like 1.8) braniac... "



    First you are using PB to catch cheaters, now you are saying you, with new patches, are upgrading cheat measures?

    So what is it, you have anti-cheat measures that have been catching cheaters, and then PB uses your list to ban them across other platforms, or, you use PB to catch cheaters, and they ban them across other platforms?

    See now is when any intelligent person can see you are lying. Say how, i dare you...

    See you do not update PB. You might update what version your company is using in the servers. PB scans have NOTHING to do with your patches. This is one thing everyone should know. If that were true, with every patch , or update you have put out, everyone would have to update PB as well. Now like i said before, any intelligent person can go in PB, and look at the version they are running, and determine, that with your patches, PB does NOT get updated as well. Game updates have nothing to do with PB updates, and vice versa.

    And you say you are happy i get banned over and over? LOL! So am i. I do not pay anything for your game, and it gives me a chance to make a new name, and start playing again under a new alias. The problem though is, i have not been banned in a long long time. here ill give you a complete rundown on what happens, if you MANUALLY ban me, since i have NEVER been PB banned from your game:

    1. Log in and see im banned/blocked.
    2. Bypass the ban or make new email based on the procedure used against me.
    3. Make new account.
    4. Play again, and piss off your customers again.

    Sounds like you really got me.

    Now do not get me wrong TechMech, at no time do i think you are an idiot. I just think you are basically a guy that works for the company, and is only told certain things, and you come here and post blindly. That is a shame.

    Please keep trying to diminish the truth in my posts, it is quite funny.

    -nocturnal
    (Proud member of AA)

    ps - As i am sure you looked at the email associated with the account im using here to post, you will find it was a manually banned account. So good luck trying to get the accounts i currently have and been using in your game. I'll give you a hint, i am the guy making people quit your game, in the Joker East, Crims.

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    1. I wonder how it feels to be so tryhard. I mean really, spending all this time letting a program play a video game for you in the attempt to ruin other people's playing experiences? What a useless existence and a massive waste of time and money. Obviously you're interested in APB, why don't you make something useful out of this time and effort and get legitimately good at the game? Or are you just interested in faking, and giving people a hard time?

      Honestly it's just sad to see people like this, a "proud member of AA", trying to defend an organization that makes money off of creating frustration in what should be an enjoyable activity. A base organization, supported by base customers.

      I wonder what you'll think of your choices when you're 40 or 50 or 60 or 70, and long past your gaming years. I have a feeling you're going to feel rather ashamed.

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  54. Well - 91coffees thanks for the assist, but clearly this "Chris" person (who apparently wants to start a blog called PC Game Cheating (though it's currently blank), has devoted himself to a very frustrated existence in life, where he continually loses all his game accounts and have to recreate them after each successive update.

    He keeps randomly saying I am 'lying' - so let me clarify once and for all (and then stop this debate) - the game has multiple anti-cheat measures. The publicly obvious one is PunkBuster, which benefits from updates that EvenBalance pushes out. Our version of PB is actually custom for the game. However, there are several OTHER anti-cheat measures that are used by the game-client itself. Therefore when we update the game client, often the result is a ban-wave that hits everyone caught by the client changes.

    Finally - while Chris is a 'proud user' of AA, he clearly is not a coder or even appear to have any technical skills, since his comments entirely misunderstand how the multiple types of anti-cheat are connected (and how they are linked between games). But I have no interest in helping him understand how that works.

    However, it does make me happy to hear that he (and his buddies) keep getting banned, and then have to re-create accounts all the time. And yes - we have figured out what account he is referring to.

    But then again, people like Chris provide employment opportunities for people on our anti-cheat team, so in a twisted way, the actions of AA do create more high-tech jobs. I guess there is a silver lining to everything :)

    Also - I should add - that Chris appear to think I am a 'hired person' at the company. While that's sort of true, I am the CEO of the company, so clearly when the CEO cares about the game to the incredible extent that he takes on a very shallow debate with an obvious cheater, it should be clear that we (at Reloaded) really put this battle at the very top of our list of priorities.

    Bye Chris. Enjoy your accounts being banned. Again.

    /TechMech

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    1. My account got banned and few friends got their accounts banned too , but i can't find the reason of the ban. Not even a warning

      and i used to log-in in my friends' account, and i'm not sure if they use or not programs, but i guess that because of this, i got all my accounts banned, but i have never used any program, is there a way to solve this?

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    2. i hope i can have my main account back, because i have more than 1.500 hours played, more than 40.000 kills and i have never used any third programs.

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    3. This Sunday, 27/05/2012, I had all the accounts that I have ever accessed here in my house, banished, after accessing the blogspot of game first, I realized they had made an anti-hack operation in apb, but I have played apb for over eight months, I have played 1500 hours, spent money in the game, and never used any program that violates the rules of the game, but I got banned, I believe that punkbuster maybe have considered a program from my system, as hack program, and automatically banned my account, tried to solve the problem for the support, but all I got in response was an automatic message saying I was banned and that there would be no action taken regarding the future of my account.

      What do I do to prove that I never used any third party program and get my account back?

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    4. Nope, you will never get your account back. Because of their terms, they are allowed to ban everybody. Hf and gl

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  55. Why don't we all relax for the next 02:52 and watch and actually learn something in our lives.

    http://youtu.be/oAp7VyGgqhc

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  56. good job TechMech,
    i hatwe cheater, since i havenn't been able to find away to play apb:r wo cheater around me, i stop playing it because of cheater
    lol Chris you are cheater enjoy ur banned account.

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  57. Hell yeah TechMech. I was skeptical about G1 taking this malformed baby of a game after RTW died... i knew it would take a lot of work to do this game justice and get it on its feet the right way. After this update, you guys totally proved yourself in my eyes and im a life fan of APB no matter who runs it since its birth. It took awhile but you figured out how to get rid of APBs biggest plague and more content then i thought would ever come. God Bless you! Every one!

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  58. Good going, I know its an arm's race that never realy ends fighting hackers but even if they can re-roll a lot of them might give playing the game a try instead of playing a hack.

    Their attitude is the same as low life's who commit petty crime in real life, acting like the guy phoning the police after they put a brick through his window is wrong for 'grassing' on them, total losers, keep on banning them until the feck back off to playing single-player games in god mode to feel 'uber'

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  59. the thing is, apb got a steep lerning curve. unlike cod or a bunch of other shooters you can't spray & pray your way throw the maps.
    i guess most cheaters ar ppl who can't handel the effort it takes to get to a level where one actually can enjoy the game.

    it would be a nice experiment to actually put up a server with only-cheats. i mean a server where everyone on the server can just activate aimbot mechanics and wallhacks provided by the game itself. just to see how long players will stay on this server, and to cut some money from the hacker-groups.

    however, in a competitive multiplayer game there should be 0 tolerance against hacks & cheaters. if hackers are a big part of your playerbase, something is going wrong...

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  60. Nice! Cool how it messes w their punkbustr! still wish cod used PB! Good Job!

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  61. Where is Chris? I started to miss his tears

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  62. You know, I get a chuckle out of how many people stop listening just because someone has cheated in a video game.

    As crappy as cheaters are, his words are no less true. I know for a fact that there are -many- people that cheat. They don't get banned. Bans do not carry across games, and they never will unless they are owned by a single company. Even then, I doubt that will ever work because all you have to do is just register with a new e-mail address.

    I give the guy props for at least trying, but c'mon, don't feed us lies when we can find the truth out for ourselves.

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  63. I want to reply to Chris,
    I often tell people that i think those are cheating/hacking with program's.

    I say this:
    Stay cheating/hacking the game u will be banned eventually when u payed alot for those program's and cash items on G1 and spent all your life time doing so by making or trying those kind of things.

    @TechMech Good job :D, and euhm.. when this issue with cheaters and hackers are finally solved, u can focus on the people that like to rage on others, those are probably under-aged, since i'm done playing with them or been even serious reacting back to them.
    [Make this community better then League of Legends]

    Proud APB Player,
    Greetz from the Netherlands!

    /AcherIcon, ItZMaY

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  64. so where is the ban list? we want to know who was cheating and got caught.. yes you caught AA but this doesn't mean that hackers got banned.. let us see them

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  65. Now take down AimJunkies, and keep going...

    I salute you.

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